On this special 30th episode of Conversations with Kenyatta, Kenyatta is joined by Dr. Joshua Rothamn, Professor of history and current department chair of the University of Alabama. Dr. Rothman and Kenyatta discuss his books, his work researching the enslaved, as well as what trauma for enslaved individuals through their oppressors looks like, and how historical figures did their best to help in times of enslavement.